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nijave 2 days ago [-]
Would be interesting to see huge pages and io2 impact.
I did a smaller version on Azure and disk latency had a massive impact much more so than max IOPs (although their crappy storage offering needed like 64-128 iodepth to get advertised iops).
Results seem mostly in line with expectations. Iirc vcpu is threads so on arm64 you get 4 smt1 cores vs Intel/AMD you get 2 smt2 cores.
anivan_ 2 days ago [-]
Good points, thanks. On huge pages: this is also about RDS vs self-managed EC2 Postgres. RDS effectively has "on" by default, but default self-managed (that I benchmarked) is "try" which is effectively "off". I'll update the methodology page to cover that, and, yeah, it makes sense to cover that separately.
io2 is on my future-work list. And agree, I have the same feelings about IOPS.
Rafuino 2 days ago [-]
Most of the recent AMD instances on AWS have SMT off so 1 core per vCPU. None of those seem to be tested here though
ballislife30 2 days ago [-]
Would love to see a comparison between Aurora PostgreSQL and self-host PostgreSQL on the same EC2 instance type.
anivan_ 2 days ago [-]
Good point! I kept the configuration of the Postgres pretty close to the defaults, and it would be interesting to compare it with the same default Aurora Postgres.
And it should be easy to add - I'll check it, thanks!
toredash 2 days ago [-]
I would really see this compared to what AWS is offering via RDS
anivan_ 2 days ago [-]
Yes! This was my initial dilemma - whether to test RDS or self-hosted Postgres on EC2. I decided to start with EC2 to be a bit more "pure", and remove cost overhead of RDS.
But support for RDS is my next candidate for development. Plus, comparison would also be interesting.
mattlong 2 days ago [-]
I'd be very curious to see you add the Optimized Reads instance types, e.g. r8gd or m8gd, to your benchmark. They add a local NVMe-based SSD block storage that serves as a cache in front of the network-based disks among other use cases. They have been a huge win for us for a read-heavy workload where the dataset is significantly larger than memory.
Edit: Apologies, on a closer read, I realize you were not testing RDS but managing Postgres on EC2 directly.
anivan_ 2 days ago [-]
Yes, I want to cover RDS with all of its specifics as the next step.
Thanks for highlighting this!
handfuloflight 1 days ago [-]
What are your thoughts on how design changes if writes become much heavier, ie. when recording agent operations?
anivan_ 20 hours ago [-]
I think we have a lot of DBs specialised for heavy write, like anything with LSM-tree in their base.
My vision is that there will be more movement in this direction, but still, we need first to understand limits of "easy to work with" databases like Postgres. It's easy to underestimate what Postgres can do.
And only when it's not enough, move to something LSM-tree-based.
TurdF3rguson 1 days ago [-]
An info badge next to rps would be nice, I'm trying to guess what r is. Rows? Records? Requests?
Small badges will be helpful, though. I added hovers in some places, like for latency numbers, but I think more visible badges will work better, thanks!
TurdF3rguson 11 hours ago [-]
Is requests the same as queries? Maybe this is an AWS thing and that's why I don't get it.
I have a 80GB database serving 10 queries per second on a $8 VPS. It depends on the query though.
Rafuino 2 days ago [-]
Gotta get the AMD instances in there. Not seeing M8a, R8a, C8a, for example
anivan_ 2 days ago [-]
Yeah, good point - I've limited the scope to make the first release more lightweight. I'll add them in the next one, thanks!
crudgen 2 days ago [-]
Interesting, is there something like this for azure
anivan_ 2 days ago [-]
I was initially inspired by the https://instances.vantage.sh/, so, like them, I want to add other providers later. Like Azure and GCP.
It would also be interesting to have cross-provider comparison. I think it's doable. Thanks!
sysguru2046 1 days ago [-]
Superbase?
anivan_ 20 hours ago [-]
That might be an interesting comparison :)
Especially, cost-efficiency. I'll think how to put it, thanks :)
I did a smaller version on Azure and disk latency had a massive impact much more so than max IOPs (although their crappy storage offering needed like 64-128 iodepth to get advertised iops).
Results seem mostly in line with expectations. Iirc vcpu is threads so on arm64 you get 4 smt1 cores vs Intel/AMD you get 2 smt2 cores.
io2 is on my future-work list. And agree, I have the same feelings about IOPS.
And it should be easy to add - I'll check it, thanks!
But support for RDS is my next candidate for development. Plus, comparison would also be interesting.
Edit: Apologies, on a closer read, I realize you were not testing RDS but managing Postgres on EC2 directly.
Thanks for highlighting this!
My vision is that there will be more movement in this direction, but still, we need first to understand limits of "easy to work with" databases like Postgres. It's easy to underestimate what Postgres can do.
And only when it's not enough, move to something LSM-tree-based.
Small badges will be helpful, though. I added hovers in some places, like for latency numbers, but I think more visible badges will work better, thanks!
I have a 80GB database serving 10 queries per second on a $8 VPS. It depends on the query though.
It would also be interesting to have cross-provider comparison. I think it's doable. Thanks!
Especially, cost-efficiency. I'll think how to put it, thanks :)